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said that Photogrammetric Record is a main con- 
tact of the members of the Photogrammetric 
Society with the Society. As the number of mem- 
bers in the U.K. Society is about 600 and the num- 
ber of participants of meetings about 80 and 
of Symposium about 100, there are several hun- 
dred members, a part of them overseas, whose 
only contact with the Society is the journal. The 
Photogrammetric Record has been rather suc- 
cessful also financially. He doubted the success 
of a European journal suggested by Dr. Hothmer. 
Mr. Carbonnell mentioned that the postition of 
the French journal is very similar to the Photo- 
grammetric Record. He added that he agrees 
with Mr. Atkinson’s opinion of the proposal of 
Dr. Hothmer. Mr. Carbonnell also made same 
comments on the importance of the journal to 
the members of the French Society. 
Mr. Case said that the paper of Dr. Hothmer 
concerns for the most part European journals, 
but he gave some prospective figures of Photo- 
grammetric Engineering. Its circulation is almost 
11000 of which 20% goes overseas. Dr. Jac- 
himsky had two questions: 1. Do we need and 
can we afford national scientific journals, and 2. 
Do we need and can we afford the official journal 
of the international Society? He then explained 
the system of the Polish official technical journal, 
which is published monthly and which contains 
a separate issue called Photogrammetric Review. 
He pointed out the importance of the exchange 
of information which can be done through three 
channels: by organizing technical meetings and 
congresses, by publishing technical reports, and 
with good bibliographical information. 
Dr. van der Weele informed that the journal Photo- 
grammetria can be published with the number 
of subscribers it has now, but the situation is 
critical. He agreed with Dr. Hothmer’s opinions 
of the future trends of periodicals. 
After the panel the audience attended the discus- 
sion. Mr. H. S. Williams (South Africa) told that 
the South African Photogrammetric Journal is 
supported by only 300 members of which 50 are 
active. He also thought that the proposal of 
Dr. Hothmer is interesting as a possible solution 
for the future as a compromise solution to rising 
printing costs. Mr. Szorenyi (Australia) agreed in 
principle with Dr. Hothmer’s suggestion, but said 
that the computerised system would be the best. 
Dr. S. Ghosh (USA) said that there is a need for 
a hard look in the "Photogrammetria" as there 
is a need for an international journal for con- 
tinuing the dialogue amongst all colleagues. 
Mr. L. Stoch (Israel) asked for the assistance of 
the editors in drawing attention to novel ideas 
which are presented clearly in the publications. 
Dr. Hothmer then answered and agreed with 
Dr. Jachimsky that Photogrammetria should be 
the greatest journal. Until now it has not suc- 
ceeded. He made a proposal of the future content 
of the international journal. 
It could contain scientific articles 6096, book 
rewievs 10%, miscellaneous 10%, and local 
news 10%, about 1/3 in English, 1/3 in French 
and 1/3 in German. 
Colonel Datta of India added that this interna- 
tional publication could be published as a monthly 
journal and at the same time be economically 
successful. 
Daf MR SETS ALLE HALLO MCN 2 LY 
Presented Papers 
Author: Mr. H. Williams (South Africa) 
Title: Contributions by South Africa to the 
International Bibliography of Photo- 
grammetry 1972— 1976 
Mrs. N. Wentink (Netherlands) 
Mr. H. Rogge (Netherlands 
Title: The ITC International Bibliography 
of Photogrammetry (IBP) PP VI/12 
Presented by Mr. J. van der Veer 
Authors: 
(Netherlands) 
Author: Dr. Z. Sitek (Poland) 
Title: Presentation of the ISP National 
Bibliography —  Photogrammetry 
and Photointerpretation, Volume | 
(distributed in the session) 
Dr. Sitek discussed the results of a Working 
Group which had prepared an ISP Bibliography. 
This Bibliography, which was distributed at the 
session, was derived from material received as a 
result of solicitations made to national member 
societies. Although only seven member nations 
— Australia, Belgium, Finland, Poland, Romania, 
Turkey, U.S.A. — had responded in time to have 
their bibliographical data included in this first 
ISP Bibliography, Dr. Sitek expressed the hope 
that all nations would contribute soon so that a 
comprehensive Bibliography could result. 
Author: Dr. Z. Sitek (Poland) 
Title: Presentation of the Multilingual 
Geodetic, Photogrammetric and 
Cartographic Dictionary in English, 
Romanian, German, French and 
Russian edited by the Romanian 
Committee of Photogrammetry 
In the discussion Dr. van der Weele stated that 
the ITC Bibliography, which is published in the 
form of cards, has to rely on the information 
provided by different countries. Therefore it 
would be of benefit if Commission VI would look 
into the matter during the next period to find the 
best solution in the coordination of the Biblio- 
graphy and avoid duplication. Mr. J. Case (USA) 
asked whether the exploration of information 
causes difficulties also for the bibliographies. 
Dr. van der Weele answered that in the ITC the 
bibliography is done by two persons and the 
price of the bibliography does not cover the 
real costs. Mr. Beatsle (Belgium) pointed out 
that there is a lot of duplication as also the FIG 
is doing the same effort in Dresden. 
Dr. Jachimsky added that the computerizing of 
information would provide a bigger file of infor- 
mation for geodesy, cartography, photogram- 
metry, and geography. He adjourned the meeting 
by thanking the panelists and the audience. 
Friday, July 16, 1976, from 15.45 to 17.15 
Session 4 of Commission VI 
Topic: Organization of Education and Re- 
search in Photogrammetry 
Chairman: Dr. A. Brandenberger (Canada) 
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