Full text: Proceedings of the Congress (Part 1)

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Discussion 
la densité moyenne 0.3 que pour la densité moyenne 2. Le Prof. Jackson en conclut que lorsqu’on 
doit utiliser un dispositif compensateur aussi puissant que ceux qu’il a mentionnés, la densité 
maximum des clichés doit être limitée à 0.5 et le gamma doit être réduit en conséquence. 
Mr. F. L. Corten: I would like to ask Prof. Jackson two questions. The first 
is: where this work will be published? The second question is: I draw the con 
clusion from what you have said that you advise to develop aerial negatives to 
a maximum density of not more than 0.5. The question arises, that can be done 
only by developing to a lower gamma. Is that the point which you make, so 
that developing to a lower gamma is more useful when you apply the new 
technique than developing to a gamma, let’s say 1.2—1.3 as we did up till today? 
Prof. K. B. Jackson: In case of publication, this is not yet determined. The 
work was originally started under the Ontario Research Council that has now 
ceased to exist so we must find another publisher but I hope that this will not be 
too difficult. 
The second question is: We find that enough density to perceive details gives 
you the highest resolution and more density spoils the resolution, progressively 
from a very low level. We need contrast in our final positives but we can ampli 
fy very low contrast obtained by our method of low gamma and longer ex 
posure, by the new methods of printing with high contrast positive material. 
As long as we get a signal, as long as we get any contrast, we can amplify it and 
we find that low density gives high resolution. 
Mr. G. C. Brock: I would only like to make clear, what kind of developer 
Prof. Jackson used. I am very surprised that he gets maximum resolution at a 
density as low as 0.3 unless that maximum density refers to an exceedingly low 
gamma something less than 0.5 perhaps. In all our experience we have found that 
you get maximum resolution somewhere about the point where the slope of the 
curve* reaches its maximum. If you are getting a maximum resolution at a 
density of 0.3, that means that the gamma must be very low indeed, and I 
would dare to suggest that we must have more proof before taking over that 
into aerial photography. Especially in view of the great loss of speed that must 
be encountered when developing at such a low gamma. 
Prof. K. B. Jackson: I can only say that the results indicated in the graph 
are the values we obtained by the methods described. It is true that we Were 
developing to a very low gamma in order to hold down the maximum density 
to a low value, because we find that the resolution is much better at a very low 
density and we can only use it because we can amplify the contrast which is 
necessary for good perception. There are the two qualities, contrast and sharp 
ness, and if we can get more sharpness by low density and then increase the 
contrast by other printing methods without going through the roof then we 
save the situation. But they are very low gammas and very low densities for 
maximum lines for millimetre. 
Mr. F. L. Corten: I would like to ask Mr. Jackson two more questions: 
1. Whether you did compare the ultimate results with this, let us call it, new 
technique with the old technique of say gamma 0.2 or 0.3 and normal printing. 
So the first question is what is the difference between your optimum results and 
the optimum results which we get until now in the normal technique. 
2. The second question or remark is, that we must be very careful before we 
apply this scanning printing in aerial survey at all. I mean not for mapping and 
for plotting but for interpretation. Interpretation means that for instance for 
forestry, for soil survey, that you apply a certain density of a certain area to a 
certain property of that area. And you compare those areas with each other with 
certain keys. If we use the scanning spot principle in our positive technique, we 
make the experience, in the same way as for the masking technique, that the 
positive then cannot be used any more for, let us say, soil survey interpretation.
	        
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