Full text: Commissions I and II (Part 4)

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STANDARDIZATION OF EXPRESSIONS FOR ACCURACY, DISCUSSION 177 
Prof F. VANDERHEYDEN: What is the feeling 
of the audience about this? 
Mr A. M. WASSEF: 1 should like to make a 
small remark on that issue. The International 
Association of Geodesy has already established 
a special study group to go into the questions 
of statistics and geodesy. It is part of the work 
of that group to establish the terminology and to 
make sure that when we specify precision we 
know exactly what we mean by it. One of the 
things we have found out is that when we talk 
about accuracy it means absolutely nothing. We 
should specify the standard error. When we 
have specified the standard error, we should 
then give the value of the standard error together 
with the number of degrees of freedom on which 
the derivation of the standard error was used, 
otherwise the value of the standard error would 
mean very little. 
There are other things also connected with 
the same problem: for instance, the classifica- 
tion of errors into systematic errors and acci- 
dental errors. In photogrammetry we have 
pseudo systematic errors and a variety of other 
errors. The whole thing is very confusing. We 
could knock out the words “accidental” and 
"systematic" and talk about errors only. We 
classify the errors by the way they were derived. 
For instance, we might say that the error which 
is within, say, the model or the error which goes 
from one model to another model, or something 
like that, is quite adequate for the classification 
of errors. It gives us a more or less homoge- 
neous system. However, nevertheless, the ques- 
tion of systematic and accidental errors still 
hangs over us. 
Prof F. VANDERHEYDEN: I think Mr Hallert 
will answer you. 
Mr B. HALLERT: I think the commission 
which I have proposed should contact the com- 
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mittee you have mentioned and also the FIG 
under the supervision of the new President of 
Commission II. 
Professeur P. BAETSLÉ: J'ai demandé à 
Monsieur le professeur Hallert d’inclure dans sa 
commission quelqu'un de France pour une 
terminologie certaine en frangais, sans vouloir 
diminuer le moins du monde les mérites de 
Monsieur le professeur Bachmann qui est ici à 
côté et qui a été cité comme étant celui qui 
pouvait fonctionner dans ce but, étant donné 
qu'il est polyglotte — et il est trés intéressant 
d'avoir des polyglottes — mais du point de vue 
de la terminologie reçue je pense qu'il est bon 
d'avoir quelqu'un représentant l'école frangaise. 
Je ne sais pas, je voudrais demander s'il y a 
quelqu'un qui peut. . . 
Professeur F. VANDERHEYDEN: Eh bien, 
je propose donc que cette petite commission 
sous la présidence du futur président de la Com- 
mission II, fonctionne et prenne contact avec 
les deux autres commissions analogues qui ont 
déjà été créés dans ce but, et táche d'arriver 
pour le prochain Congrés à un accord, ou si 
possible méme avant. 
Prof R. RoELors: Mr Hallert has already 
pointed out that this question of collaboration 
between the three Societies mentioned was 
raised in 1958 in Holland at the Congress of the 
FIG. As an outcome of this discussion in 1958 
in Holland the FIG sent letters to other organi- 
sations — that is the Union and this Society — in 
order to ask for their co-operation and to ask for 
the formation of commissions within these 
Societies. We have established a certain contact. 
Therefore, I think the initiative has already been 
taken, and what we have to do is just to step in. 
Prof F. VANDERHEYDEN: That settles the 
question. 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
	        
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