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DISCUSSION ON EDUCATION IN PHOTOGRAMMETRY 85 
its integral task in our society and will be of 
great help and use to all photogrammetrists. 
Herr Professor BARVIR: Auch in Ihrem 
Namen danke ich Herrn Kollegen Corten für 
seine Ausführungen und móchte vorschlagen, 
dass wir die Diskussion über Bibliographie dann 
Discussion on Education 
Prof A. J. McNAIRr: I originally intended to 
speak about the situation regarding education 
in photogrammetry in the United States. I now 
realised that there is a more important subject 
to discuss. I realise that we have come here at a 
very early hour, but I cannot help but look at 
the large number of vacant seats and wonder if 
the International Society for Photogrammetry is 
really interested in education in photogram- 
metry. 
Perhaps two questions need to be posed to 
those of you in the audience. One of them is to 
those of you who may be working in govern- 
mental or commercial photogrammetric organ- 
isations: are you satisfied with the number of 
men and the type of training for technicians, or 
the type of education for engineers and scien- 
tists, that you have available to you to carry on 
your business? Do you have an adequate supply 
of trained or educated individuals? To those of 
you who are concerned with education, and I 
see here quite a number of educators from 
various schools and countries: are you satisfied 
with the number of up-and-coming young men 
ready to enter into the teaching field? Do you 
have enough teachers coming into your educa- 
tional system to carry on and adequately to 
teach photogrammetry? 
In the United States, our situation could al- 
most be classified as desperate. We have very 
few men being trained or educated in photo- 
grammetry. Perhaps altogether there would be 
less than 500 students who would receive any 
education in photogrammetry, and this might 
amount perhaps to from ten to fifty hours of 
lectures, with perhaps some laboratory work or 
perhaps none. As for graduate students, in the 
United States there are perhaps 30 or 40 per 
year who receive a number of credit hours 
equivalent to 20 or 30 semester hours in our 
academic system. This would be the equivalent 
of about one year of training. It would be one 
year for a master’s degree, for instance. 
I would like anyone from the floor to ask 
questions or to suggest how to get students 
interested in photogrammetry and to take 
um 10 Uhr abhalten im Zimmer Nr 356 im 
dritten Stock. Wir haben nämlich schon zu 
wenig Zeit und es sind noch zwei Kollegen die 
sich noch zu Wort gemeldet haben. Darf ich 
zuerst Herrn Kollegen McNair bitten um seine 
Ausführungen über „Education in the United 
States”. 
in Photogrammetry 
photogrammetry courses. At the meeting of the 
American Society of Photogrammetry in 
Washington, the education section is always 
rather poorly attended compared with some of 
the technical sessions, but being an educator 
myself I feel that unless we do keep new 
students coming into our educational system, 
the profession of photogrammetry will cease to 
be a profession. 
Of course, I realise that in the Netherlands 
you have an excellent school which serves not 
only the work in the Netherlands but supplies 
men both with training and with education to 
many of the other European countries. May I 
ask now to hear from any of you as regards the 
situation in your own country, or at your own 
Institute, or in your own Federal or Commercial 
mapping organisation. 
Herr Professor BARVIR: Wir danken für diese 
Ergänzung unseres Berichtes der Kommission 
VI über die Unterrichts- und Raumgebungs- 
verhältnisse in den United States. Von neun 
Staaten sind sie ja in dem Bericht zusammen- 
gestellt. Es sind die neun Antworten, die wir 
bekommen haben. Ist jemand hier, der ausser- 
halb dieser neun Staaten, die im Bericht an- 
geführt sind, der die Anfrage vom Kollegen 
McNair beantworten will, hier? 
Professor Dr W. SCHERMERHORN: I have two 
short remarks. I believe that the situation in 
Europe in general is a little better — at least on 
the Continent — than that described by Profes- 
sor McNair for the United States. I am not 
talking now about the ITC, but I speak on 
behalf of the Geodetic Institute in Delft. There 
the geodetic students have three hours during 
the full year, actually that is between 25 and 30 
weeks a year. They have between 75 and 100 
lectures. In addition, there is a compulsory 
continuous three weeks practical exercise, using 
the whole equipment of the combined collection 
of the ITC and the Geodetic Institute. Apart 
from the large collection of equipment available 
to students, you have the same situation avail- 
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